Time to wake up….
Writing by shinda on Tuesday, 4 of April , 2006
Just when it looked like things were getting better for Sikhs in the West, this idiot goes out and does something stupid. Now I’m fully aware every religion/culture has its share of bad apples and black sheep, but none the less this is probably one of the most disgusting things people can do (hustle sex from minors). Now its bad enough that he’s doing what he’s doing, but what’s worse is the fact that he’s got a Sikhi Saroop (full dhara and full kes), identifying him as a Singh of Guru Gobind Singh to the world.
Now don’t get me wrong. I’m all for exposing and defaming these kunjars, and I’m fully aware that Inderjeet isn’t the only one, after all child molestation, whether we admit to it or not is a huge problem within our community. Exploitation of our mothers, sisters and daughters has been going on for a while now, and the problem has only been getting worse in recent years. Look at the news headlines in the recent months, many big time precharaks, kirtani’s, raagi’s have been exposed, while Sri Akaal Takht Sahib conveniently turns a blind eye, giving these perps the occasional slap on the wrist, even then only under Sangat’s watchful eye.
Long gone it seems are the days of Akali Phoola Singh, who gave even Maharaajaa Ranjit Singh lashes for associating with a muslim a bibi, but then again maybe its time we bring those days back, scare the perverseness right out of these perps.
The fact that Inderjeet got caught and exposed the way he did, on national prime time news, only confirms my belief that Guru Sahib is sending us a clear warning. Showing us that if we don’t start to deal with and handle these problems from within properly then they will continue to leak out and over into the mainstream, and the Khalsa, once known for being the savior of the daughters of others, will have failed at protecting its very own.
Wow… these type of people need to be kept in line. Kharkoo’s were good at keeping people in line.
Guys like this, oh man. Doing beadbi of the Sikhi saroop, even worse trying to exploit little girls. He needs to be taught a lesson that he will never forget
Check out this site for somee other info on his case: http://dokich.blogspot.com/2006/03/what-do-inderjeet-singh-and-david.html
” If you don’t do it then its nothing”
How dumb can one get? Guruji will do kirpa.
The Dateline website: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11152602/page/4/
“Khalsa, once known for being the savior of the daughters of others, will have failed at protecting its very own. ”
Vah Vee Shindiya
Sharm Dee gal-a
There is no guarantee that Inderjeet Singh was amritdhari because it is very common among Punjabis and Sikhs to use Singh as their last name.However, since this guy has a turban on, it makes all Sikhs look bad.
All this is disappointing, but lets face it. Life doesn’t end here. But don’t thikn that none of this can’t happen to us. God can put you in a wrong situation at the wrong time. So we should all do ardaas to god and hope that this does not happen to us.
Recall the story of Bhai Joga Singh
LOL! WHAT A HOMO!
“So” - it doesnt matter if hes amrithari or not, anyone going after a 12 or 13 year old girl needs help, and has whats coming to them.
I was just waiting for ashton kutcher to jump out n say “you just got punked!!!”
BOLEYYY SOO NIHAAAALLl……
SATT SRII AKAALUHHH
bhaji. just want to say. thank you for understanding.
many bibian go thru this pain and no1 is there to help us. We are treated like useless objects since we are little, so we grow up thinking and feeling we are weak. We forget how to fight back. Our brothers & fathers never taught us to fight, like Singhnia of the olden days learned. We’re just alone.We lose our sense of confidence and belief in Guru Ji even. We are forced to hide behind false names , like me.
we need help
to be woken up & a lot of the times it seems like our brothers, fellow sons of Guru Gobind Singh ji dont care. Kharkhoos of 80s-90s cared. They gave their lives and all they had thinking one day, daughters of Sikhs would be able to walk the streets of India freely without being raped, abused, stared at, ridiculed, mocked, whatever. I don’t know if we all live up to their legacy or not
wjkk wjkf
I was looking at the article about satnaam singh and it states the crimes that he committed. The guy was a straight con artist and even pretended to be apart of a catholic charity. He would also be commonly seen drinking at a Florida night club. You can say this stuff is allegations or whatever, but this aint India, im pretty sure what ther sayin is pretty close to the truth. So now why are protecting this guy to such a degree, but willing to the cut the hair of this other shameful bandar. I kno the crimes aint the same, but they both in sikhi saroop doing stuff that is completely against the tenets of the religion. One is a con artist who pretends to collect for charities and is a likely drunk, the other is a child pervert homo. Niether of em should have our support. (p.s. i signed that petition still, but jus somethin to really think about)
wjkk wjkf,
dizam you’re right, it is something to think about.
I’d highly consider though how the media gets this type of info though. After all how do you establish that someones a known go-er to some club, or that someone was there unless you have them under survellience from before.
As far as the media goes, we may not be in India, but from personal experience the news in nearly all cases is only telling you only so much of the story. Many times events are skewed, replaced or exagerated. This is often true in a lot of cases, so we should always question what we read, and apply a certain level of anaylsis to it. However I don’t doubt some of the allegations such as the charges laid against him as this would all be public knoweldge, but how you going to pin a guy for being at a strip club, the night before, and claim it was actions similar to the 911 terrorists? In the 911 case they actually went around afterwards trying to capture as much survellience about the guys, here the police booked him with fake id’s, I doubt they cared enough to trace all his steps, and find him on survelliance.
Lastly, in my opinion Child molestation and rape are the 2 most horrid crimes a person can commit. Crimes such as theft, and all that are pretty low on my personal justice scale so I don’t really hold that to highly against him.
Anyways another thing to think about though, is apart from Satnam Sinhs personal case, the fact that the implications this Florida trial may have. For instance say someone commits a crime and then later wants to become a Sikh while in jail. By forcing the prisoner to cut his hair, you are essentially keeping them from freely practicing their religion. Sure don’t hand them a Kirpaan, but if their ready to change let them make at least some progress towards it.
Just my 2 cents though.
Its religious freedom, we must not let them cut satnam singhs hair because, no matter what he did, its taking away his sikhi saroop, which will open the door to relgious intolerance, we must make a stand and not allow this singhs hair to be cut, because it is the sikhi saroop we are fighting for, not necessarily the man himself
dang yo , this manz looks like a raagi
LOL that was on tv aalong long time ago I was at a friends house and wow was it messed, I told you (shinda) about it when i came home on msn and you post it now, A BIT LATE SKIPPY!!!! Still you guys talk about the more impornat issues falling from it i just want to make it clear i saw it first !!!!
Read this on a forum:
“WJKK, WJKF
Sangat Ji, I have come into a problem, its been like this for the past 2/3 months. I always go to Gurdwara Sahib before going to school. At my local Gurdwara there is this Gyani. For the past 2/3 months he has been harrasing me, but lately its getting really bad, he would follow me sometimes from Gurdwara Sahib to my school, I get really scared everytime I go Gurdwara Sahib now, I haven’t told anyone not even my parents because I dont know how to.
Last week I enetered Gurdwara Sahib & he was sitting upstairs reading Guru Granth Sahib Ji, then when I went to Matha Tehk & went back down he closed the guru Granth Sahib Ji & followed me down.
I have also realised it isnt only me who this Gyani harrases but other girls aswel. Its really uncomfortable because it has forced me to stop going to Gurdwara Sahib now which I dont want to do but have no option.
Can anyone help please. I dont want to be revealed either. Hope my brothers & sisters can help me. PLEASE… pray.gif
Thankyou !
WJKK, WJKF”
THIS KIND OF **** HAPPENS ALL THE TIME im telling u caus eim a singhni and i KNOW it . When will all these stupid retards wake up? It pisses the **** out of me .. Even guru ji’s daughter up thre ^^ wrote something and everyone seemed to ignore it, this is the state of Singhnis in the panth today. Theyre just bloody ignored. No one gives a **** even if we ARE being assaulted by Granthis, singhs, old and young, whatever the f**k. Pissing me off now. **** man! U guys don’t even realize and u never f**in will. I know i shouldnt take it out on innocent people who have nothing to do with it, but trust me, people dont give a ****. Singhs of yesterday cared. Singhs of today, God help em . word
p.s. F**********ck everyone that doesnt care
some singhnis get sooo bloody frusterated after a while that they turn bitter, cause no1 hears them. Singhs wont help unless its their own blood sister, but i thought Amrit was thicker than blood………..
peace.
I think in this time of age, we (bibian) shouldn’t rely on anyone other than God, ourselves to solve these type of situations. If singhs don’t care, obviously they definately would if the bibi was their ‘own blood’ sister, that’s for sure and I’ve come to see it, then that really shows how much of singhs they really are that they claim themselves to be (not much I’d say).
But Singhnee, you must ALWAYS remember, that your the Daughter of Guru Gobind Singh jee, you DON’T need others to take care of you. Women have alot of power to do what they set to their minds to do so don’t underestimate yourself and don’t rely on others to help you other than God. You can ask someone to help you, nothing wrong with that, but if they ignore your cry, it shows that they couldn’t be much of a help anyways, the losers probably need help themselves. Bless them and move on.
Ask other older/same age bibian to help, I assure you they will. If I was there, I would (assuming your from canada - I’m not). Maybe you can tell them your situation, and grab the other bibian who are putting up with the same garbage, get together and arrange a meeting with the people who manage getting the granthis/keertanins of the Gurudwara sahib that this is what’s happening and tell them to do something about it. And if they don’t then grab the screwed up guy and beat him with your shoes (lol)…okay thats what you probably really wana do, but yeh stick to the first option I’d say.
krissang i agree with u
but most girls when molested or abused feel really powerless and stupid. Cuz when stuff like that happens, w/e there are no words to describe how it feels, especially when u are soo innocent, like a Singhni , and she doesnt understand whats going on or y. & doesn’t even know what to do. Its not even about having strength or not, of course singhnis have loads of strength, many fought in battle too killin lots of ppl
But
a lot of times when some1 molests or abuses u ……. you freeze up…. Thats the only reason u cant defend urself… Its not like ure not strong enough to rip off his……. whatever
it’s just that you freeze up cuz lots of younger bibis or especially singhnis have NEVER been in that position before and its retarted, its just retarted, they just freeze up when some stupid paapi bunda tries something, and they dont understand what theyre supposed to do
& thats why these retarted men get away with it…Especially if its someone u trust like a granthi or baba , pakhandi baba, it confuses the hell out of you because u start thinknig YOU’RE wrong ,
and if ure innocent enough,
they might even try to make u feel like its ur fault or u did something wrong.. Its like hello, youre the besharm tht couldnt just leave a girl alone, and go do simran or control ur lust…. Its so stupid , complex, messed up , and it seriously ruins a bibis mind, like.. Really messes u up for a while.. Because aaaaaaaah its just retarted… SOo stupid soo messed up u think its all ur fault even tho half the time u didn’t even do anything, it can happen to totally normal girls who wear baggy suits and big sweaters all the time.. But even they start feeling gross if it happens to them… messed up world
Cause they know you are vulnerable and also they can tell from the start if a certain girl is more weak or even less confident maybe, maybe she has been more sheltered or doesnt kno how to stand up for herself
i was just saying it beause ive known people in th situation or been in the situation where singhs should have done something but didnt. & bcuz Singhs of the past were always around to punish paapis that had bad intentions or tried stupid things, with ne bibi sikh or non sikh. Today its nothing like that. its like the bahaduri /braveness of the kaum , sometimes seems reduced.. i duno . watever. thanks for ur advice tho krissang. it does make sense.
The problem is that you can’t just go trusting everyone and treating every complaint as genuine, after all how many times have people also cried wolf.
A year or two ago, at one of the local Gurdwara’s a young bibi (14, 15) year old, called the cops on a long time sevadaar, who was well respected by the community. The police came and charged the Sevaadar with sexual harrassment. Being of old age, the Singh was shocked and this was a huge blow to him to the extent that he became sick and then hospitalized.
It was later learned, (through her friends) that she had made the whole thing up, to get back at the Sevadar, for scolding her, so this was her form of revenge.
Now there have been other such claims, bringing things down to trust. Who do you believe? Yhe stranger who you know nothing about or in many cases the accused. This is just human nature, and obviosly if someone is able to commit the act, they’re more then capable of trying to cover it up, but at the same time how do you differenitate between those who cri wolf and thosewhose cases are genuine?
It’s for that reason that anyone is more likly to act if its a blood relation or close friend, since there is that trust.
Not that I’m trying to justify anything, but thats just the way things are. Also action is not really dead. A few months back a Bibi who used to do sevaa regularly at a Guru ghar was exposed to harassment at the hands of a young raagi jatha. She told her parents, who got in touch with the committee’s and told the Singhs, who wasted no time in beating the Raagi’s and sending them on there way back to India.
Now we can speculte that if the Bibi was someone else who was not known to the Sangat,then maybe things wouldn’t have been handled so swiftly, but we can only hope that they would.
Now I understand that reliving these things arn’t easy so making public statements and other such things is more then embarassing for the victims, but what solutions do ‘yall see to identify who’s telling the truth when it comes down to one persons word vs the others?
ya. thatmakes sense. the reason y its a hard situation is because, its just as easy for the accused to say the girl is lying, but u honestly have to admit that people in our society are way more likely to believe a baba or singh than some young girl who no one knows about. But that doesn’t mean we can ignore the girl’s voice. Sometimes if the issue gets blown up cant you get the Punj involved, or some Gursikhs that are of super high avastha, even to sit the girl and the person accused to sit in front of Guru ji and the Punj, and even try to interview both or ask who is right / wrong. If both the victim and accused are into Sikhi or amritdhari, I am sure the guilty person will crack up , start crying eventually, or admit they did something wrong
if you are put in front of the punj pyare it is hard to lie and say you didnt do a kureiht like this. Or if the girl is lying, its highly unlikely that she’ll be able to continue lying through everything. Chances are if the panj or gursikhs are of high avastha they will b able to see who is lying or not, it becomes obvious . The thing is, sometimes babas or granthis or even older uncles/sevadars that WE TRUST do such things, to girls we dont know very well. It would seem completely unfair if we are just going with the person we are familiar with… we need to make our decisions after doing enough simran, bani, and even asking guru ji for a hukam maybe. Not just based on who we know, cuz most singhs dont know these kinds of girls that go through this stuff, sometimes they dont have cousins or brothers.. or whatever.
ive seen this happen b4 that when a Singh that was trusted by all the other singhs, did something wrong to a bibi, all the Singhs believed him….. Even tho he really abused her… But eventually the truth came out, but in the end the bibi was still aloen… So someone finally stepped up , and went to the guys house with 5 Singh and said you have to get maafi and pesh from the Punj, or else ….
The person was basically forced to give forgiveness and he admitted his mistakes cuz was approached by the panj, who were well known chardi kala gursikhs in the community
i duno its a tough situation. its hard to tell. but i hav just seen more instances where ppl get away with it, i’d say majority of the time, wen these things happen in sangat or the gurdwara, the girl isnt lying, its just that ppl dont listen to girls much, ppl are more likely to listen to the singh - its a fact ,we cant deny…If the girl IS lying then usually its easier to make her admit it, than it would be to make the accused person admit it
aahh i duno.its a messed up situation
Thats true, it is unfair, and I agree the Punj should be brought in as mediators, and any accusations taken to them, and let them act as judge and jury.
After all that was one of the main reasons Guru Sahib bestowed Guru Roop to the Punj Pyarai. But I just dont seem some of these culprits coming forward, or in the case of Babay refusing to listen to one set of punj and insist on bringing there own, mock puppet punj to deal with the situation.
I think thats something Gurdwara’s around Toronto need to organize. The commitees should get together and create a protocol of sorts for handling such cases, but it seems to me that there’s a legal loop hole many of the perps can use.
Say a bibi reports someone to the punj and a meeting ensues. If in the meeting it is found that the culprit is found guilty of his crimes and the Punj demand he get pesh or be removed from whatever position, waiver or other form of sevaa and the culprit refuses, saying the verdict is wrong and refuses to get pesh for he see’s no reason to. The Punj then declare the culprit a Tankhayeea, and such gets reported to the community etc. The culprit can then potentially sue the Punj , Gurdwara commitee’s etc for defamation of his character on the grounds that they made these allegations (his harrassment etc), without any evidence or proof that would hold in the courts, and therefore had no right to pass judgement on him.
There are probably ways around this, or maybe such a case wouldn’t hold up at all, but I just see a lot of loop holes in the whole delivery of justice.
After all if there was evidence then it would be just as easy for the individuals to go to court and charge the individual criminaly.
Agreed on anonymous. It’s really hard to trust anyone these days and this whole drama can get pretty nasty. It is messed up, it could take long, but you know what the truth does eventually come out.
This is to the singhni that wrote about being harrassed ..can u email me at gold_sherni@hotmail.com …i dont care if u make a fake account and do it, just email me… i wanna talk to u ..
i understand what u guys r saying… n when ure in my mentality u dont think straight, of all those things.. cause ur mind is just fogged.. with stuff.. I think what u said is right, if the baba is really that messed up that he would sue the punj, things could get out of hand, but sometimes it seems worse to me if the bibi is by herself & no1 even believes her or ppl think shes lying, or ppl just dont care. cause regardless of that, her life is still messed up or its hard for her to get over it. so . waheguru
superwoman u can email me. heres my fake account. justabibi@hotmail.com . just hoping no1 else emails unless they have somethin decent to say
also. i think that gurdwaras should have a plan if something like that happens. ive also had girls telling me about perverted ragis that coem, but they dont stay at 1 gurdwara for long, they just hop from gurdwara to gurdwara, it makes me feel bad imagining how many girls they gross out, lots of ppl think girls are messed up, but some r still very innocent and it can make someone uncomfortable or confused if some ragi singh guy is looking at them or does something weird.
its all stupid . it pisses u off more if its a singh. lots of bibian have lost their sikhi bcuz it was a singh. not a normal guy.. then they get confused about all of sikhi altogether, cause singhs are supposed t obe trustworhty always.
it is only because guru ji still cares about people like us, that some of us still keep our sikhi
only kirpa cuz otherwise, i duno man
i think when our generation grows up, we need to bring the gurdwaray bak, and establish some protocol to deal with such situations safely
WhoaI think this happens more than we think too -
http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?showtopic=17378
http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?showtopic=18121&pid=160577&st=12&#entry160577
Sorry to hear all this .. but trust me guys I lost my faith from Sikh’s (i still believe in Sikhi but not in Sikhs). And all of u r also portion of those sikhs…. just tell me what u know abt inderjeet singh??? how can u make ur decision without knowing the person… as someone said above that it is quite possible that he might be at wrong place at wrong time… I know inder & to my understanding he had no such intensions, he is a very well educated sikh & more faithful and trust worthy than most of us… the situation he is in today there might be many reasons behind this.. & the 1st reason is the society it self, we r living in this society but still our parent’s are living in 16th century.. we go to school here but yeh we cant do anything that other kids can do… we cant have gf’s or bf’s, we cant date, even in some families we cant be friends with a person from opposite ***… so if we don’t get that we try to sneak & that is human nature….. & that is what happened with inderjeet … to my understanding since he was not allowed to have gfs or have friends those were gals he talked to ppl online…. & also keep in mind that he is only 22 yrs old…. so in his case i think he did not c the much diff in his age and the gal he was talkin to… as far as i know him i dont think he had intension to hurt anyone & spoil a kid’s life…. yeh a 65 yrs old guy is for sure a molester but a 22 yrs old or less, hmm I m sorry but I don’t buy that…. These guys have their whole life ahead & they can get almost any gal… so these r the things to keep in mind…. & don’t u think that it is entrapment, do u think that he would still have gone their if decoy did not invite him????
so just dont look at the one side of the coin, we need to look at both sides before making a decision…. I cant say anything abt american’s but at least i did not expect that from u guys… dont think that i m taking Inderjeet’s side but i m 100% sure that if u know him then u’ll also support him… cuz all the ppl those really know him they are standing by him… even though their support wont do any good but atleast it’ll help him & his family to go trough the tough times in their lives….
inder is an engineering student and doing Masters degree and i m sure that he has a great future ahead of him… today u guys are criticizing him that he is a sikh & he did all this, will u guys praise him tomorrow if he gets to do something good in his career… no way, no of u guys will say a word… he was the only sikh guy going to university with full bana & I m sure that NOT EVEN A SINGLE person ever went to him & told him that u r doing a good job…. but today everyone is pointing fingers at him…. i m sorry guys but this is all we do, just criticize each other….. this will not get us anywhere…. yes if he is guilty then he should be punished, but the question that who r we to say that he is guilty & that too without knowing the truth….. to my understanding we all r responsible for the situation he is in, this society, his family & parents are equally responsible…. so yes this is TIME TO WAKE UP & realize our problems…
i’ll be more than happy if this posting can change at least one person’s point of view… good luck u all & i just pray that inder gets out of this mess & concentrate on his education, career, and sikhi…. & also all of u guys don’t make this kind of mistake cuz I really don’t want ur family & friends to go trough the pain inder’s family & friends are..
The fact that he was at the wrong place at the wrong time does not justify a thing. It means that if this wasn’t a sting operation it would have been something no one would have looked twice at, since no one would have known about it.
As for the problems, I just can’t see how not being allowed to date, has anything to do with preying on little kids.
As for what his family must be going through one can only offer there sympathies but then again no one else is to blame for this but Inderjeet himself.
On a side note/follow up: Incidently Inderjeet wasn’t the only punjabi booked in this sting operation. There was another Karampal Singh Nakai who was also picked up. Minus the dastaar and kes, Karamapl just ended up being another perv lost in the masses.
2/50 were sikhs & later there was another sting in southern cali & another sikh guy last named Arora was arrested in that sting. Does not that ring a bell that it has to do something with soc-economic group? Again about the age I would say that according to me an 18 yrs old or 22 yr old does not see much age difference between them self & the teen they are talking to so they were really not a child molesters. Cant say anything abt other ppl but i dont accept that one should call an 18 yrs old a child molestor becasue he himself is a child. & about ur 2nd question abt being allowed to date, i would say that it plays a huge role. If you will try to keep someone in a box that person will always try to go out of the box & they will grab every opportunity they get to get out of the box and they will mess up big time. I m not a psychology major but i can say that it has a lot to do with environment around these ppl. Sikhs are not even 1% of US population but 2/50 is 4% which indicates that there is a problem within the society. That is all I was trying to say. And also dont judge ppl based on what media told show, media & law just follow the evidence they have but to my understanding you need to know the person in order to judge, u just cant look at the evidence & say that ohh he/she is a criminal. & in this case I know inder & u dont, so i think i can analyze the situation better than someone who does not know him. Dont think that i m taking his side, yes if he is guilty then he should be punished, but lets not pre-judge. It is usual for any person who does not know him to behave the way u & other ppl r behaving. But it is also usual for ppl who know him to behave the way I m behaving. So we both are right at our places.
There’s no doubt about knowing people differently, affecting there judgement.
As for the age thing I’m still not convinced, so we may just need to agree to disagree here. An 18 year old going after a 12, 13 year old seems suspicious. Maybe in another society its the norm, but last I remember a grade 12 dating a grade 6, wasn’t really looked all that higly upon. Also its true an 18 year old is a child, but an 18 year old is much more developed, mentaly and physically then a 12 or 13 year old, in almost all cases, so I still think its stretching it to say that its ok.
As far as the problem, there is a problem, I agree. I think everyone here would agree there is a problem, but what ways are there to combat this problem.
Reason I dont feel that dating is an issue is because those who want to date will date, parents saying no won’t stop them, but this does not lead to them chasing after 12, 13 year olds. It just leads them keeping the relationships from there parents.
As far as evidence goes, the video speaks for itself, does it not? If parts were skewed, left out, changed, etc. I’m sure that this would be a plausible argument, but judging on the nature (as described in the video) of the convo’s and from the reaction/response given by Inderjeet, I’m convinced that there was a sexual undertone.
Lets take the worst case scenario that there was a sexual undertone, so that means we just follow zero tolerance policy. One mistake & u r gone, is that how it works??? Yes I agree that it is hard to accept this kind of behavior from a person who is in full bana. Even though he/she is full bana but sill he/she a human being & all human beings make mistakes. It is very important to look at person’s background and future, because one decision can change his/her life. All of us make mistakes, we cant find one sikh who never made any mistake, guru ji told us to stay away from kaam, karodth, lobh, moh, & anhkar. But are we really??? does not that mean that we all should be punished. I m a sikh but i also like to read books from other religions cuz it helps me to understand my own religion better, there is an incident in Christianity when ppl wanted to punish a lady for adultery (without knowing the reason that why did she do that) & they asked jesus for permission to stone her & he said ok the person with no sins will stone her 1st & not even a single person came fwd. So beside the fact that what he did I still stand by him cuz i know him & i know what kind person he is.. & also if we support him today it can make a diff in his life & he we can bring him back to the track. & also it is better if Chris & dateline also help these kinda ppl instead of wasting their time, money & energy on these stupid shows. one more thing that comes to my mind are these shows even helping a bit??? They caught 2 ppl again in the 2nd sting those they caught in the 1st. & if u read the conversation of the one of the person from 2nd sting it looks like that he is doing it cuz he feels that they screwed his life already. If one of our friend of relative gets sick we just don’t kill that person we take him/her to doc and get cured, same thing implies here if we have a problem in the society we need to find a solution & criticizing & punishing those ppl is obviously not a solution. Dateline did a good job by informing ppl abut the problem but it is quite possible that they might screw some ppl’s future in this process. & also abt the age issue again, isn’t a high school senior dating freshmen is same thing??? & It is considered ok, is not this double standard? Anyways it was nice discussion & nice to know other ppl’s view. But I don’t wanna waste my time & energy just criticizing u or other ppl…. I respect ur opinion but I also strongly believe in my stand… I’ll request everyone to come fwd & find a solution… my mom always says kay jaykar har koi insaan apany aap noo changa bana lave taan ek changay samajh dee sirjana karma koi muskil nahi.. so should only pay attention to be a good person rather than perching others.. good luck!
Hi all
You know for what punjabis are famous.. for leg pulling and I saw it here on the blog. I will ask how many people know that guy. I think not a single one. I donot thnk this Shinda would have started a blog if the same guy had acheived something in his life. What you want to prove???? I simply cannot under stand????? We all had did something wrong in our life even you Shinda. The problem is this that guy just caught and you made this a big issue. Punjabi vich ik kahawat hundi hai Apni peeri hethaan sota marna. I think kise te ungal uthaun to pehla ih dekh lena chahida hai ke asi aap kine k pure ate pavitar haan. Je asi kise de changa nahi kar sakde taan ghato ghat maara nahi karna chahida. Do something constructive in your life so that you, your family and society can be proud of. Not something destructive to damage the image of someone else. I am sure that his family will be going through bad situation and you guys are just creating the problem, increasing their pain,. Be a problem solver not a problem creator.
theres one very weird person i know who really enjoys your blog and your various videos, so i have come to your site.
it seems you enjoy the attention of your blog, and justify people viewing it as wasting their time more then you for writing it…and essentially shifting ‘blame’ and focus to the reader, not the writer. its very clever i must say.
however, there might be a sikhi undertone to all of this but there is also ‘much ado about nothing’, as the saying goes. i dont see any sikhi promotion, i only see ego in all this. no disrespect, i feel the majority of the message boards are the same, its all about self promotion whether its an individual or a group.
but anyhow, whatever ‘helps you sleep at night’ as they say…
“Be a problem solver not a problem creator.”
i don think hes starting ne problems. not sure what ure all talking about
hes just making things more aware
its better than hiding it
and living in an imaginary world
p.s. no ones asking u to read the blog or visit it
I’ve got a feeling that our buddy inderjeet is either posting here himself of getting people to do it for him (probably the former rather than the latter).
Everyone makes mistakes. But to talk filth with a 12 year old girl is not the usual type of mistake people make. That’s the sort of mistake that was rewarded with a trip on the back of a donkey with your face black. Unfortunately we don’t have that system available now, but Shinda’s blog and other posts are as good of a substitute as I can think of.
Inderjeet should feel ashamed that he disgraced himself so badly and put his dastaar and long beard in such a dirty situation. If nothing else this stuff will help wash some of his bad karma away.
dayamnn..the count is at 3 now
at this rate half of the S. californian sadh sangat will be on dateline nbc.
all kidding aside, this is the wakeup call for the urgent creation of a punjabi porn industry (kaptain amrinder u listenin bro), to keep the sexually frustrated truckdriverrs, bookworms, comp geeks, ol perverted babbey, and religeous workers at bay.
This inderjeet singh fella should not be allowed near a computer…ever. I think i speak for all guys who grew up in normal homes when I say yea we were all a bit sexually frustrated growing up and what did we do. yea you did what all guys do, take out hustler mag and spank the monkey. Im sure even self righteous mr shinda engages in all that and nothing wrong with it. We never got into graphic sexual discussions with a 7th grader on the comp. and worst yet visit her house.
I do think its not right to focus on him alone. This other fool, karampal singh should be rediculed more staunchly. However, that might diminish the effect of the rediculing because miserly loves company. Soon we might even have a branch of NAMBLA at the local gurudwara. Sikhs should have a zero tolerance policy on this issue and it should be discussed openly in the gurudwara so that no misunderstanding exists about it.
what the helllllllll SINGHS do that ****? whaaaaaat the hell has happened 2 our kaum
why do we call ourselves singhs

















