why do those families need to go to cali, if mann singh is innocent he should come and fight his battle in court and face the charges…. if hes innocent the court will find him innocent… WHY DOESNT HE EVER RETURN TO CANADA, AFTER MAKING IT HIS HOME FOR SO MANY YEARS?

ITS CUZ HE CANT, HES AFRAID OF BEING ARRESTED AND CHARGED AND BEING BROUGHT TO JUSTICE.

1) Luv da flags!!!
2) How does Singh know so much when hes from the UK, and wasn’t there himself!!!!!!!
3) BOOOKED!!!

You ask the question, Why doesnt Baba Ji return to Canada?

Brother mark my words he will and he is going to in the near future! Baba Ji doesnt need to prove any innocence, all he is saying is Sarbat Da Bhalla, in the eyes of Baba Ji there isnt a problem so why make statements etc, just to satisfy peoples doubts!!!!!

You think Baba Ji is afraid, lol, think again! The only people afraid in this situation is the people these false accusations came from, if they werent they why WHY WHY wouldnt they confront Baba Ji? Baba ji has travelled all the way from India nearly 20 hours by air and these guys cant travel 2hours…….lol!

Think about it, if your sister/wife/mother claimed this and that, would you not have the first instinct to confront Baba Ji if they were only 2-3 hours away from your home? Or would you wait 2 years and just watch Baba Ji travel by throughout America, doing your upmost by posting upon the web and liasing with newspapers?? lol

The answers to the questions are quite self explanatory?

Please remember one thing when Baba Ji visits Canada, and nothing happens, then i wonder where you will take stance then? Untill then please do not spread comments that are not true, Baba Ji is going to return to Canada both Toronto side and Vancouver too, please take out time to meet Baba Ji and ask them in person any issues you may have!!!

On a final note, the theme of people against Baba Ji seems to be come to Canada!! Fine!

But a year ago it was Baba Ji wont leave India - they did with Kenya!

Then it was all visas will be cancelled - they got a permanent visa for Europe?

Then it was they will not return to the west - they did by coming to Italy then Belgium!

Then it was they can never enter the United States - All i can say is NYC!

Then it became they are afraid of coming the UK - they came last week!

Then it was why dont they come to Cali - They are there right now!

NOW THE STEAM IS COME TO CANADA - I assure all people they will!!!!!

only time will tell, but please untill it does, watch your steps becase they could appear to very expensive when the truth is revealed!!!!!

I dont wish to argue with any of my brothers and sister whom also post upon this blog, but for once having a civilzed discussion, we all know there is no proof of any of the alleged accusations - therefore please only state comments that are true or have some form of base rather than a hot headed temper loss leading to frustration in all!

Thanks.

yo shutup and keep quiet.

kiss my *** you fool!!

The true facts are:
1, the baba was hurried out of the Airport, by request of the chela Virk to the airport police, and because the baba has no back bone, and the baba cannot face the sangat!
2, that the programs put up on the baba’s website, theworldofgurunanak.com, for California have all been cancelled by the sangat, and the committee members of each gurdwara, when they read/heard the truth.
3, that the baba PR (mr harinder from the UK, who is the ’singh from UK’) machine continues to tell lie upon lie, for what end, only Guru Ji knows!
4, That the Baba PR team said let the sangat come and question, and when they did, the baba slipped away, showing his true colours.
5, that the baba will have to face the sangat, IF any gurdwara does give him time,which is looking very unlikely!

pehowa wala lovers, this may well be his last trip to america, because hiding for two weeks, doing kirtan in the chele’s houses is not profitable, and that is the baba’s only reason for sikhi parchar.

oh and at least half of the people who turned up at the airport to greet the baba were fron places other than california!

If the girl arrives in California, will the baba face her? you might want to aks your baba first, otherwise IF she turns up, you may call it a publicity stunt. be careful of what you ask for harinder!

The Malton Gurdwara, in Mississauga is trying to call the Baba to Toronto, Canada. This is kind of disgusting seeing that the committee members at malton all knew about the rumors re. pehowa wala and his lust for women, including his singhs.
What will happen if the baba turns up in our Malton?

Hey Kulbir, this is a request bring Kaki from Vancouver, tell her to confront Baba Ji infront of the Sangat!!!

You say the programmes have been cancelled, check Baba Ji’s site again and make note clearly the programmes listed will take place!!!!

Baba Ji will come to Canada, lets just see what happens….lol

Whats the point of posting on this thread, when half of my post gets deleted, why not let the whole truth through?

someone please kill maan and stop all this b/s controversey.

>>>>>>>>>>

Sabaa looks up, turns his head slightly looks down, reveling the top part of his eye, raises his eyebrow..crowd starts cheering in anticipation…

IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY!!!!

I dont remember a post here asking “will the UK runt who supports Mann Sion please respond”, so I’d take that as your cue…but since you are here reading these posts I give this reply to you…

WHEN!?!? The chants have always been come to Canada but what does he do instead? He runs to NYC….The chants continue, CAN-A-DA, CAN-A-DA and again Mann picks his fat *** up and rolls to UK…The fans not happy continue their chant, CAN-A-DA, CAN-A-DA, and Mann sion boogies to Cali.

Getting annoyed with it all the fans with a new breed of refs all start chanting “KUN-I-DA”, “KUN-I-DA” and Mann Sion supporters again reply, “What more do you want from us”, well apart from dead, it be nice if you came to Canada

As yall know we say it up in dis……………Hun Akhooo Satnaaam Sri Vaaa-HEEEEEEEEEEYYYY-GR-GR-GR-GROOOO [akj smaggam in town] >>

damnn shinda. i think the man dem from UK took a shot at u:

Whats the point of posting on this thread, when half of my post gets deleted, why not let the whole truth through?

hes not commin to malton trust me

Damm Shinda, they sure did, why delete the direct stuff and keep all the stuff against Baba Ji….This blog is total bs, total one sided!!

Just wait and Canada will hit you in the face soon!

Nigaaaaaaaaz from canada,

The leak re. mann sion turining up in Malton, has come from committe members…what if its true, and he does turn up….thats a sad state of affairs man…

PS. didn’t know that other ethic groups frequented malyon gurdwara (re. racial slur)

So what if he turns up, then after all , this would give you guys the perfect opportunity to take out all your issues. Its all good giving it loads on the web, but doing it for real is when it matters! So you have nothing to lose!!!

Alright hold up playas….

No one is coming to malton gurdwara.. So stop spreading rumours.

So what if he turns up, then after all , this would give you guys the perfect opportunity to take out all your issues…….and also a chance for Mann Sion to dephile, the pavitaar dhartii of MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALTON….

Look like the UK Runt already forgot about Mann Sions running away from the Cali Sangat who approched him.

Keep dreaming mate!! lol

haha speaking of pavitaar dharti’s ’sewadars’ as some of you may refer to them as from the committee, rented limos for the baba and used to wash the ground leading to the enterance to the malton gurdwara doors in previous years. hes revered as the sant of all sants in malton.

a question i have is, is it possilbe for a sant to be a fat a s s? does that make sense? i mean we can’t argue on the invisible characterisitcs of ones spirituality but visible physical attributes should corresspond with one’s spiritualness, no?

In which way possible that make sense?

Ones physical attributes could be disabled, but yet the level of spirituality could be more than we ever know.

All i can say is look at the Pyar Sant Ji and Baba Mann Singh Ji had between them - I dont think us UK singhs or the Canadian Singhs can really argue, surely Sant Ji knows more.

http://www.theworldofgurunanak.com/Gallery2.htm

i heard’ baba takhaur singh told his jatha, that maan singh was an imposter.

anyhow, that picture’s been making its round abouts to validate maan’s sainthood and with the reference that there was ’so much’ love beteween them its a picture for god sakess…

i like this picture
http://www.theworldofgurunanak.com/Gallery12.htm

haha

Momma says two things

1) Respect everyone, but only truss gurujee

2) Dont even trust yourself (in a ego sense), who knows what god has in store?

Joe Singh,

You heard, but thats it! Just like now you have heard all the stories but in person havent seen anything, this is the problem, this is where we fall!

Believing something, for which we think, ohh thats sounds good, i dont like the guy involved anyway, so add a bit more masala and pump the story a bit more!

I have personally seen the pyar between Baba Takhur Singh Ji and Baba Maan Singh, they loved each other, thus one of the Reasons why Baba Maan Singh was the first to Damdami Taksal Mehta when Sant Ji left for heavenly Abode.

Bougaloooo, i think your right:

Respect everyone as WHO KNOWS WHAT GOD HAS IN STORE!

FINALLY an argument worth having..

You do realize Baba Takhur Singh told the Singh’s that there where no true Sants left these days, and at that time Mann Singh said, no we’re still here, to which Baba Ji said No, there no real sants no more.

Afterwards Baba Ji told the singhs this is what we’re left with, talking about Mann Singh…..

It was after the first encounter (the picture you posted is from the second one), that a group of singhs wanted Mann Singh banned from Malton Nagar Kirtans and to not be invited, but the persistance continued and the Sangat was still behind Mann Singh. There is a reason why majority of Singhs in Jatha have been against Mann Singh looooooong before any allegations ever came up in the media about him, but it has always been Sant Baba Takhur Ji’s subaa that if you have nothing nice to say about someone, then no point in saying it, let alone making a morchaa out of it, because sooner or later they will fall on there own.

Even after Longowal back stabbed Sant Jarnail Singh, Sant Jarnail Singh didnt speak bad about them in public stages, simply because, the truth will always prevail.

So before you continue to try and drag Sant Baba Takhur Singh into the mix learn the story behind the facts.

And before we get to the “Baba Takhur Singh invited Mann Singh to Metha Barsi programs”, that same year Baba ji spent majority of the year in the States, UK and Canada (2002) so spent very little time organizing the Barsi rather had Singhs organize it, of whom Dhumma was the main supporter of Mann Singh, he may back track now to clear his name, but the truth is the truth. Dhumma has always made it a point to invite Mann Singh and as far as I can see there freidnship continues(d) to blossom.

But real recognize real. It was after 2002 that some in-fighting / friction started to occur between youth in Toronto (where Baba Ji first told Singhs that Mann singh was a fake), and there were many who took great offense to this. However those closest with Baba ji (of which dhumma was never one) stood against Mann Singh and continue to do so.

There where many other “Sadhs” who Baba ji called out for being frauds, however there supporters continue to back them up, and say well Baba Ji didn’t publicize anything against them.

For the same mater Sant Jarnail Singh never said anything against Badal, Longowal or even the Babbars at that time, but those closest to them knew how they felt about these fakes.

End of the day see what you will, but those who spent time in the Sangat of Baba Ji and in Singhs can vouch for the above, and can only hold the same stance against many current Sadhs.

you changed your name to taksali singh as a masking agent, its quite obvious your a maan supporter and i find it wierd that you can see love between two people that easily. i think it was a mere sign of respect that baba takhaur singh would have shown to any person living by acknowledging maan, just like the references someone used to use to point out prime minister gandhi, once upon a time…

ex. ‘bibi indira gandhi’ ‘jamee hinduan de khare, janta deiyan lakkey votean’

maan singh went to go visit him, its NOT when they decided to have lunch or a meeting, or mutual agreement to meet one another. (in the case of that picture anyway)

THAT PICTURE IS PROPOGANDA FOR MAAN SINGH.

http://www.theworldofgurunanak.com/Gallery12.htm

the orange whale pose ^^

Shinda Ji,

A few years back, i was in San Francisco with Sant Baba Takhur Singh Ji, we were staying at somebody’s house, at which Baba Mann Singh Ji was due to visit after his Kirtan Programme.

Anyhow, Baba Mann Singh Ji arrived and Baba Takhur Singh Ji was on the bed sitting legs crossed, Baba Mann Singh Ji kissed Sant Ji’s Charan Said Fateh and sat on the floor. To which Baba Takhur Singh Ji said Mann Singh why are you sitting on the floor? Baba Mann Singh Ji replied Baba Ji you are bigger, how can i sit level with you.

Baba Takhur Singh Ji replied, No Baba Ji you are bigger let us sit on the floor. Baba Mann Singh Ji said no Baba Ji you stay on the bed and we’ll stay on the floor. After some time, Baba Takhur Singh Ji insited Baba Ji sit on the Bed alongside them. Baba Mann Singh Ji said Baba Ji ask the Singhs with you first as they may mind. We all said no Baba Ji we dont mind please feel free to sit on the bed. So Baba Mann Singh did.

However underneath Baba Takhur Singh Ji there was a Duvet, Sant Ji looked across at Baba Mann Singh and said, No, Baba Ji this still isnt right, your still sitting lower than me. Sant Baba Takhur Singh ordered us to take the duvet. So we did and then Sant Ji and Baba Mann Singh Ji sat and had Langar together.

When Baba Mann Singh Ji was going to leave, Sant Baba Takhur Singh Ji said to Sant Baba Mann Singh Ji, Mann Singh you should be in the Samprda of Damdami Taksal, considering how great a Parchark you are. Sant Mann Singh Ji replied Baba Ji, im always with you, where ever they may be need for my help or support, please call me and i assure you i wil be there.

Finally first Sant Baba Takhur Singh Ji did Matha Tek to Baba Mann Singh and then Sant Mann Singh did matha tek to Sant Ji.

Now Shinda Ji i aint trying to bring Mahan Sant Baba Takhur Singh Ji into these quabbles, but the truth is im only telling you what i saw that day with my own eyes, the love between Sant Ji and Baba Mann Singh was gleaming and all in the house that day could see it!

Now what im trying to say is if Sant Baba Takhur Singh Ji and Sant Baba Mann Singh Ji had so much Pyar and Love for one another. Then on the other hand you have these Nindaks from Toronto who Slander not just Baba Mann Singh but Sant Baba Takhur Singh Ji too by calling them a f….ing liar, its kinda obvious who is right.

Thats all Brother.

Awwwwwww Shutaaaaaaap Everybody ur **** aint gonna make a difference. Waheguru knows whos right and wrong.

Shinda take this **** off actually u can’t hahahah, this is like Bassi’s show the more controversy the better. hahahaha.

But newayz who gives a **** y we all doin other peoples nindiya and even if Mann singh is wrong and we exaggerating it and making it nindiya we washing all his sins so lets just leave it

HAHA that must b full of **** or if its true , can you provide the names of any of the other Singhs that were there? Also remember, Baba Ji (Baba Thakur Singh ji) are the essence of nimrata, sagal ki rina, which is dhoor of EVERY ONE no matter what their character

I dont know the names of the Singhs, as when Baba Takhur Singh Ji travelled to San Francisco they stopped in the UK first. Me and my Father both went after a few days to meet Sant Ji in San Francisco. My father was pretty close to Sant Ji.

What i have told you, is what i saw, whether you choose to believe it or not, thats entirely up to you, as i aint gona lose anything. Yes your right Sant Ji were the essence of Nimrata, but then doesnt that make us wonder,

Where the hell are we standing today?

Where is our Nimrata?

Are we following Sant Ji’s Hukam?

Sagal Ki Rina Remember Brother Sagal Ki Rina regardless of character.

Taksali singh jee, in the recent years mann sion and baba jee crossed
paths twice, first time in Toronto the second time in Surrey so I’m a
little curious as to when in san Fransisco this meeting occured?

Having asked around none of the singhs who were with Sant Baba Takhur
singh while they were visiting California remember this meeting
either. However considering that you yourself were there it is fair to
say then that the other Singhs who travelled with Baba Jee also know
who you are, also consideing that you’re from England it would hold true
that you would have been one of the singhs from England who other singhs recognize or know. From what I can recall there were a few Singhs from England who came with Jatha to North America, however I can only remember 3, 4 and most of them were much senior then you yourself seem to be. Also having spoken to some jatha singhs the general concenus was that the UK Singhs who supported/support Sant Baba Takhur Singh Ji have been 100% against Sant Baba Mann Singh since these allegations ever broke and many were also just as skeptical about Mann Singh much before any scandle broke into the news.

Again this only helps in raising suspicion as to who you really are and whether or not you were even present at this meeting. Now i’m not calling you a liar but it just seems odd that other singhs can’t confirm these happenings.

However regardless of all that let’s say this did happen, but from
what I remember of Baba jee they were really soft spoken espeically when outside, a fateh and a comment or two, but otherwise I don’t remember them being big on the convo, although at times they very well could be, but often or not, these moments we’re often shared with close associates. Otherwise anytime someone came to visit they were asked to sit down on the a similar level and enjoy in the listening of the Gurbani that they made sure was constantly being read. As far as them asking Baba Mann sion to sit at the same height, I wouldn’t be to surprised considering Baba Jee
wouldn’t even let small children sit on a lower stage then that of themselves.

End of the day everything I’ve said here can be collaberated by those
Singhs who stayed with, travelled with and did seva with and for
singhs in the jatha. Question is, can yours?

Shinda Jee,

Im not here to convince you becuase, Brother it dont make any difference to me regardless of whether you think its true or not!

Bottom line, Sant Ji and Baba Mann Singh Ji had Pyar between them, end of the day Shinda Ji, i am no-one to comment on Baba Mann Singh Ji becuase if Sant Baba Takhur Singh Ji believed in him, well who am i to say any different.

On top of this, the originating Toronto Nindaks, have said Bad about Sant Baba Takhur Singh Ji with swear words that bring shame. Bro to me, its pretty obvious!

So with that said, it is blatently obvious that you are out to accomplish two things:

1) Use Baba Takhur Singh as a crutch to help you support Mann Singh.

2) Singhs from and at the other two encounters that have been known to have actually happened found the opposite to be true, and even those that supported Mann Sion at the time can vouch for these.

3) Your story if fictatious on numerous accounts as there where a few questions left unanswered that could have just as easily supported it, ie
- a date..
- your name/fathers name

4) I can substantially prove what ever I have claimed, but the question remains can you? If you can’t then what is the point in making these your focal points of arguments. End cause is that you are hurting your own credability and that of your Baba’s.

5) End of the day, what ever oppinion people hold of baba Ji is there own. I could honestly care less, as there oppinion neither furthers or deters me from my own goals. I still don’t see what your point is though. If someone doesn’t like Baba Ji, or doesn’t hold a high oppinion of them then everything must be false?

I personally have a bigger problem with people misconstruting events, meetings and taking things much out of context to rather further there own agenda. This in my oppinion is a larger problem we are facing, we see it happening at all levels in the press, and in life.

End of the day Sant Jarnail Singh used to meet with Badal, and Badal also joined the morchaa, and you could find pics of them together, end of the day the truth reveals itself since one can only act like something for so long before they show there cards on there own.

Shinda Singh Ji maharaja (just joking, don’t get all serious on me ***!)

this taksali singh is no other than the ONE computer literate supporter mann sion has, then same character comes up on Tapoban, sikh sangat, and now this blog. His name is Harinder, but uses many alias’s

I was in toronto, when “rolly polly, give me your money or else” baba came to visit baba takhur singh. it was at satha’s house. satha was fuming that the ’round one’ had come to his house, but kept his mouth shut, for the sake of baba takhur singh. baba takhur singh had been ill, and mann sion had arrived to see how they were doing.
i took a few picture, being the only one who had a digital camera, and was able to catch that pose were it looks like baba takhur singh is blessing mann sion, but the reality is that very little was said.

yes you are right to assume that its properganda..taksali singhs have always had issues with the king of roti…have you ever thought wehy he never used to sit in langar? man just think about the possiblity of roti running low! guess he was thiniking of the sangat!

oh and canadian flag guy, talking about factual things is not nindia, there is a difference.

mann sion used to talk about the taksal all the time, comparing the dam dami taksal, to the rara sahib taksal…saying the follwoing:

1, that the D.D.T was backward, all ther dera’s were in bad shape, due to the lack of following, due to the lack of respect from sangat.
2, that sant jarnail singh did not habdle the whole 1084 thing correctly, when indra gandhi was offereing a lot more in the 1980’s he should have took it, instead of losing so much.
3, that the real jot of guru gobind singh was in rara sahib only
4, that baba takhur singh was only givnen the position because, the choice was limited.

what has been written has the same value as what taksali sing h form UK is writing.

Harinder singh chahal,

the young man who is related to my wife, and thus as a brother contiues to write and talk in ths manner, listen up…

1,anyone that leaves your fake baba’s dera, leaves becaue there are issues with there character, right? no other reason is ever given, and that includes all those that left whilst i wasted my time with your ‘no clue baba’. your camp said that photos existed of my wife and other women doing the dirty with singhs. i otld you then and i tell you know, publish them, i will put the bill….but you can talk ****, but when it comes to publishing photo’s…nothing.
2, my wifes character and mine have been intact, and will continue to be, because we do not have this passion for lust, unlkie your baba, and others in your camp.
3, nindyia = lies. when three ladies have given sworn statments, and others have too, re. other issues, then were is the nindyia. they are only stating the truth. your baba is scared of pressing charges because if a case is brought forward, then all the **** will come out, all fo it…tell me if i’m wrong.
4, saab singh was the one decent singh in his jatha, thats why he left when all this rape and sexual assult stuff was confirmed. ask anyone re. saab singh…he had more truth and sinserity in his eyes than your bachorla baba ever did.
5, you will know the meaning of the word coward my friend….don’t speak too soon. the baba will come to canada, and i will be the first one at the airprot, in any city…..thats a promise.
6, the taksali singhs and AKJ singhs in cali..what now you are saying the programs are being allowed, but up until today, it was thea programs are booked and progressing….whats the truth. no one is threatening anyone, but being told the evidence, thats all.
7, first the truth came out in india, then in canada, then new york took that huge stand against this fake, and now cali completly rocks it….things are not looking good for your baba’s future as a parcharak mate. time to retire maybe…and you talk about truth.
8, oh i’m in vancouver in mid august, are you going to be able to make it….to be able to say all those things to my face, or in the UK in april 2007!

i don’t need to prove anything , your baba was the one that put us on the world stages talking about how perfect we were and how our characters were un-breakable…so what happened? either your baba was wrong to say that, which is sad seeing that his super power of ‘antardhain’ must have had a splinter of kryptonite stuck in it, or….our characters are still in tact.

all i know is that you are his voice, and what you talk is rubbish, and vile…. why has your baba not been able to face me , or even talk to me since we learned the truth and left, because truth is on our side…time will tell, and is beginning to tell.

Status of Mann Sio’s programs in California :

- Gurdwara Sahib Stockton, California REJECTED
- Gurdwara Sahib Fremont, California REJECTED
- Gurdwara Sahib San Jose, California REJECTED
- Gurdwara Sahib Bradshaw Sacramento , California REJECTED
- Gurdwara Sahib Dashmesh Darbar Sacramento , California REJECTED
- Gurdwara Sahib West Sacramento , California REJECTED
- Gurdwara Sahib Roseville Gurdwara #1, California REJECTED
- Gurdwara Sahib Roseville Gurdwara #1, California REJECTED
- Gurdwara Sahib El Sobrante, California REJECTED
- Gurdwara Sahib Hayward, California REJECTED
- Gurdwara Sahib Tierra Buena Yuba City, California REJECTED
- Gurdwara Sahib Bogue Road Yuba City, California REJECTED
- Gurdwara Sahib Modesto, California REJECTED
- Gurdwara Sahib Peach Street Turlock , California REJECTED

ACCEPTED : Private homes
TENTATIVE : Private deras run by other Saadhs/Thugs.

Summary : No self respected Gurdwara committee in California will allow this Thug to “perform” his pakhand on their stage.

Jai-Kaar Keo Dharameaa Ka……

haan vayi kidaaan veer….pyaar pari satsriakal bhai…bacheh teek taak ne? ya’ll niggaz need to jus chillllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll…panjo roti mildi aa?(some more than others ;)) tid par janda?….fer ki aymain saleh lari janeh oo….

Thank you for that, i think we really needed that brother panth khalsa. I think we should be pakeh in our rehat before we move into the political spectrum….

Niranjan, keep trying your upmost with your clan of lads, who think their almighty by going around and threatning Gurdwaras that if you do programmes we will smash the Gurdwara and the Police will close it forever.

No Gurdwara has rejected Baba Ji, the fact is the Gurdwara’s have been threatned, (and dont lie i spoke to the majority yesterday), stating a group of lads pumped by the all famous Wife led Nindia Machine Kulbir, have come to the Gurdwars threatned to take physical action ie damage to the Gurdwara if Sant Baba Mann Singh Ji’s programmes are carried out.

Therefore, they dont want the trouble so turn down the programme…..But the funny thing then is, lost souls like Niranjan, twist the story so much that some how, these Gurdwara and the SIKH Sangat reject Baba Ji….lol

You helpless people crack me up. But anyway as for the Gurdwaras that show some resistance stating “do what you have to do, we are going to have the programmes here regardless” then these people begin to shake and end up making up stories about how the entire Gurdwara should be Boycotted…..!!!!

Gurdwara Guru Angar Darbar Bakesrfield - NO PROBLEM

Turlock Sikh Temple - NO PPOBLEM

With regards to the Niranjan’s list Baba Ji has never carried out Kirtan at any of Gurdwaras above apart from Bradshaw Guru Ghar Sacramento, for which the Pardaan came crying to Baba Ji, in request they carry out kirtan at the Gurdwara Sahib….lol Baba ji said you refused due to threat once so why come running back now!!!!!

Then there is El sabronte, for which the Secretary got scared of the threats, so Baba Ji said no problem forget the Divaan here too!!!

Why make a big deal out of something which isnt, You havent seen anything with your own eyes, you havent heard anything with you own ears, People have began to realise you people cant do anything, as threads very similar to this have been flying around for 2 Years now and no one is able to anything at all…

Bottom line its all talk, NO PROOF, just simple internet circulation, for which people dont even think twice anymore, they know there are various people who are obviously against Baba Ji and have been for 2 years, but Niranjan Singh, nothing can be done!!!

P.s as for you Kulbir, if Shinda had let my numerous attempts to post through, you would have sure got all the answers, but untill then, untill Shinda decides to make this blog 2 sided….

You keep trying mate and ensure all that your wife says you immediatly run to do…lol

Listen Mr Uk Singh (thas just a last name, because obviously it has no real meaning with you).

There is a limit to how much someone could do nindiya on someone without there being any truth, and from the looks of Kulbir singh’s comments, there is truth there.

I dont know for what reason you can still stick beside this baba with this many allegations on his head and still be true to yourself. What kind of spell has he put on you? You took Bougaloo’s comments and perverted the meaning towards them. ONLY TRUSS GURUSAHIB. (you have put some much faith in this one man, that you have blinded yourself from the obvious) because ALL MEN/WOMEN can stray and make mistakes.

At the end of the day no matter what you say, Mann is still a Man, A mortal, a person on the ropes to his 5 vices. Who told him not to get married? He made a personal decision not to get married and he didnt. Then why is he jumping on top of women when he sees them. The man got no restraint. He doenst know what it means to be a true Bihungham.

I have known Kulbir Singh for many years and he has sung many songs about how great Mann was, and nothing short of these allegations would have broken his sharda towards him. THe bottom line is he found the truth and left, but what is keeping you on his rat-tail? What has the baba done to you that makes you ride his coattails? Is you pocket fatter? House bigger? Whats up with that??

Oh yeah by the way, I’ve met the baba to, back when he used to come to malton, he had a good technique of story telling. But never seen him do any bani. Besides Sahib Singh I thought all his chelay were show peices with their Gaathray on the outside and talking themselves up. Sahib Singh is the only one who I ever say doing bani. What does Mann counter in his next diwaan? He says that ‘No one should know when you do your bani’…AHHAAH what a load of bull. If you do your bani, you do your bani, you dont have to hide it, you just dont brag about it.

Ive been reading these posts for a while and the gundh that you talk is ridiculous. What has the baba taught you? The bottom line is the baba claims he is from Rara Sahib Sampharda, however, Baba Ishar singh jee passed the gadhi to baba bishan singh jee and baba bishan singh jee gave the seva to baba teja singh jee. Where did Mann get his Shiksha from? Is he one of those fake babay who claim their lineage to Rara Sahib to take advantage of the Bholay Malwa people? I think so. He is one of 14 people who think they got their teachings from Baba Ishar Singh Jee. Mann is a flop.

I dont hate on anyone who does parchaar. MAtter of fact I used to respect Mann Because of his crazy amount of parchaar. But somethings cant be overlooked. The fact that Kulbir Singh broke off speaks volumes of what kind of person mann is. Your comebacks seem personal. Kulbir singh’s comebacks seen to be fact related.

Rape is rape. Anytime someone stays behungum for their entire lives, it is hard to stop kaam especially when they dont do banee, nor get their sikhiya from a sampharda. This man has mad amount of money, has a hierarchy of ‘chelay’ who are aloud to ‘have something on the side’ and is taking overland like he was a german soldier walking into France.

Enough is enough of your BS. When any allegations come out against anybody which are not true, they make a point of it fighting them. Mann has not come back ot Canada since, he has been hiding behind ur propaganda in the UK and apparently the people in Cali have not been raped enough for the Baba to not be invited back.

And for allegations about the threats that the gurdwaray received, that’s a load of BS too. In the late 1600’s Aurenzeb said that no non-muslim will have horses, elephants or singh raags. What doesGuru Gobind SIngh Jee do? He tells all his singhs, shut down everything else we only doing raags. We only buying horses now, we gonna go buy some elephants. THen he rang his Jeeth Nigara. Where is MAnn at? Scared, leaving the back exit of the airport? not going to any gurdwara? not coming back to Canda?

“The details my son, the devil is in the details”
enough of this BS
Let MAnn clear his own name, stop covering his paap with ur own ****

harinder, post your ’so-called’ answers without the vile **** attached to them, and i’m sure Shinda will have no problem in letting them be published. but remeber, no ‘mantra jantra’ talk that your baba has taught you, i mean no vile language please.

Veer Niranjan singh posted all those gurdwara’s boycotting your fake sexually motivated baba, and you mention two gurdwara names. these are both classifed as private. yesterday at turlock dera your baba was again driven off at high speed, because chardi kala singhs were protesting (watch the panthic weekly website), and also the SWAT team that your baba’s thugs called, stood by the side of truth, giving our boys a heads up when your baba was about to leave…saying just don’t step on private property, but contiue to voice your opinions

harinder more great news it to be revealed this week, your baba’s cry of “do something” was again answered…wait patiently for the big news. your baba talks about no body facing him…how can they when re runs…

there no case in canada against your baba, so please let us all know when he will sneak into the country.

Re. my sikhi…why not tell the sangat how you after six years of knowing the baba, only after your potential wedding plans were put into place, did you take amrit…baley, baley guru tha singh. and from your language, the stench of ‘lack of simran and bani’ is obvious…your a credit to sadh pakand sangat…LOL

The bottom line is there is no proof, there hasnt been for 2 years and over that period apart from cry your heart out on the Internet and feed Newspapers with BS, you havent managed to do anything!As for the Gurdwaras, why lie…..The majority have been threatned, i know becuase i spoke to the Pardhaan at nearly each one….The simple Reply is Veer Ji, Some Singhs came to our Gurdwara and threatned to smash it up if we hold Baba Ji’s Divaans here,,,, Therefore in danger of there being trouble we would rather not hold the programme…Fair Enough!!

But then Panthic Weekly, so Sikh Sangat Reject Baba….lol…whatever!!!

As for the clan outside of Turlock yesterday, they simply couldnt take it…some Gurdwara had actually took stance and stated do whatever you want, Baba Ji going to do Kirtan here!!!!!!

So what happens, they pull out the same old tricks, get a few banners, think your all that and protest outside the Gurdwara…..people who are you protesting to….??? becuase the Darbar Sahib is still full of Sangat…The Sangat couldnt really care less thats why still there a large gathering of people following Baba Ji and going to each and every Divaan!!!

End of the day, You guys couldnt pull it off, You said No Guirdwara would allow them, but yesterday those words slapped you in the face!!!!!

Continue to protest, nobody gives two hoots anymore!!!!! AND YOU KNOW IT!!!!!

What I’m having a hard time gathering is if Harinder is Baba Mann Sion’s #1 chela, and the true output of what the Baba can perform:

1) why did you like about the meeting in San fran when you posted as “taksali”

2) why do you lie about the threats against the gurdwaras?
- your claim implies that the Gurdwara pardhaans and sangat are cowards and are easiy controlled by as you said a “few thugs”
- your claim also futher backs the point that your Baba himself is a coward and has no respect for Guru Granth Sahib or Sangat, for he takes no initiative to help support these “terrorized” parbhandaks or the Sangtaan.

3) You beg people to approch the Baba, but the Baba constantly finds an execuse to run away.
- he calls the cops (snitch)
- he runs (coward)

4) A Gurdwara is defined as being the house of the Guru and as per Gurmat Marayda no one is ever turned away or banned. Yet the “gurdwaras” where these programs are held:
- ban those who are against Mann Sion
- call the police to help keep them outside of the guru ghar (guru di fauj, calling for backup??)

So far your baba, the Sangat surrounding the baba, rape allegations aside has proven a few things:

1) No care for guru sahibs maryada (banning sangat from the “guru ghar”)
2) Having NO balls. (running scared, not able to take a stance, pathetic)

Its honestly starting to seem like those nicorrette commercials. The baba and his chelay come across as being innocent, but the more they talk, and the more questions that are posed, the uglier, dirtier and more shameless they reveal themselves to be.

harinder singh AKA baba’s only voice on the web v/s the rest of the panth.

re. your accusations that my wife, the respected sister to many singhs, and as your baba said for nearly a decade, the one character which could never be tarnished….listen up,

1, Get all your low life groups accusations of me, my wife, the girl from BC, the singhs that left the dera, and put them on paper, then go to a lawyer and have those documents legalised as affidavit’s. these can then be published in the same way we all contiue to tell the truth about your baba.
2, so when your group does publish these articles, then be ready for the court case that would follow..so make sure you mention all uor names in full please, just so it doesn’t cause any complications after, thank you…
3, you say that my wife was not loyal to me, again i ask you for the so-called proof you all claim to have.
4, you say that i was not loyal to my wife, sleeping around, again i say ‘do something’
5, you say saab singh was messing about (LOL) againg please some affidavit’s please, thank you…
6, harinder, honestly young man…do the baba’s side a favour, and i’m sure that all would agree, just stop with the blogging or forums. you are not helping your fat man’s cause…becasue the youth has stood up in California, and there might be more of this…all because of the likes of you and your ****.

the true story of the events outside of the dera in cali will be told on panthic weekly with photo’s then a video too…

Oye harindera, do u got no sharm?

looks like you have taken after ur pakhandi baba in all sharm-lath ways.

Attacking a man’s family to discredit their theory on ur baba being a rapist/thief? Something is wrong with you man. You need to get ur head out fomr under his *** and fear god a little bit man.

You think the baba is gonna give u a shabaash becuase u were loyal to him?

There is hits story about how Guru Hargobind sahib jee was travling with his Faujan and they came across a dead snake with thousands of bugs eating the remains like vultures.

the Singhs asked guru hargobind sahib jee what is this? Guru sahib replied that the snake was a fake saadh and the bugs are were his chelay.

Thas what you are man, a gandh eating bug. Stirring up ****.

Ur baba has no credibiltiy left with anyone. he needs to excommunicate himself from the panth or be on the recieving end of his own actions.

Cant he just simply clear his name?
Cant he just come on the record and say these are lies?

the man has been silent. hoping that everything dies down. looks like he is afraid of what is pen got him into eh?

You think people will believe the baba’s only chela? These accusations are agiant he baba not agaisnt you. why do u feel like u have to deliver the baba from his own infamy? not by takign shots at the claims against ur baba but taking shots at a person’s family?

oye sharm kar saliya
sharm kar

you have just cemented urself and ur baba’s image inthe same light with everyone on the internet.

How can you wash something when your hands are dirty themselves????

baba mann singh pehowa wala = 100% fraud.
baba mann singh pehowa wala = no lineage. Rara sahib have made it clear
baba mann singh pehowa wala = no guts. will not face sangat/victims
baba mann singh pehowa wala = coward (100%)
baba mann singh pehowa wala = lier…including his no-simran/bani chele
baba mann singh pehowa wala = 15 minutes of fame are coming to an end
baba mann singh pehowa wala = runs, but does not lose the weight!
baba mann singh pehowa wala = will come to canada, for the grand finale
baba mann singh pehowa wala = exchanges money for your loyalty…
baba mann singh pehowa wala = the spin master, yes the spin doctor.

To Bhai Kulbir Singh please do not bring yourself to this low of a person such as Harinder Singh. It is one thing to accuse and say stuff about somebody but WHY does this guy bring in Family. SO Bhai Kulbir Singh do not comment on this idiots views as he has no sharam at all about bringing people family’s into this.

Man, Harinder, you make me laugh. This was all about Baba Mann Singh and you bringin all this other stuff in. This thread was about how the Pehove waalw Can’t do Kirtan in Gurdwaras and you switched this to something completely different. Harsimran Sion and Shinda Singh know how I feel about this topic. I am not one to decide. Th ealmighty Guru knows who is right and wrong. But lets keep people’s families out of this even if some1 is involved.

Bhai Kulbir Singh has put some facts out and that was it. Why do you guys bring in family’s man.

Sharam kariye Guru kolon Dariye!!!

My post might have been repetitive but you know what im getting at.

The only reason i stated facts about Kulbir’s Family is becuase his wife Cindy, continues to pump him with the almighty BS. Then he as the fool he is, gets hot headed and begins phoning for hours on end convincing newspapers and circulating the same old rubbish!!!!!

I said before and ill say once again, Kulbir:

If you dont need to prove anything, then why have you got ur knickers in a twist, trying your UPMOST to publish Bulls**t, not just on the web but newspapers too.Kulbir you aint got no proof, stop holding onto your wifes 2 year period of Bull and get on with your life, people like you have come and gone, some are dead and others are yet to die…But not one of them has managed to harm Baba Ji in anyway, whether it be the reputation or whether it be anything else!

People worldwide know the SANT BABA MANN SINGH JI PEHOWA WALE and know the level their spiritual jeevan is at…But others like you cannot accept this fact due to lack of sense and understanding. Therefore we have what we have today….Many people for Baba Ji and many people against Baba Ji….what ever you do or say cannot change a thing!

I mean its been 2 years, yeh sure people have said bad, but in comparison we both know a number of people have realised and began to regret, regret ever beleiving your bs allegated stories.

As for Saab Singh - where has his Antar Gyaan come from all of a sudden, 2 years ago he’s crying on the Edge of river saying im going to jump in for doing bad and now he’s become an all time Sant….lol you make me laugh!

If truth was with you, then Dhan Sri Guru Gobinds Sikhi would have still been alongside you today!!

If truth was with you, then statements such as ive moved onto the next level ie some wonderland level above sikhi wouldnt have come out your disgusting mouth!!

If truth was with you, the bs you stated about Sant Baba Takhur Singh Ji, would not have come out your disgusting mouth!!

Simply getting a few lads from your clan to threaten Gurdwara’s (and yes dont lie i spoke to the majority of them Yesterday,) stating if you hold Baba Ji’s programmes here we will smash the Gurdwara and call the police so the Gurdwaras closed down for good…….WILL ONLY LAST SO LONG!!!

Kulbir stopping jumping on the high horse with Cindy behind telling you which way to go, and get on with your life! When i spoke to you some time last August you were in tears on the phone to me….crying saying how no-one was with you!!!!! Please dont lie becuase we both know it true!!!

Bottom Line, 2 Years, No proof, No evidence only you ranting and raving!

Get over it mate!

Oh and Mid August Sant Baba Mann Singh Ji will be in the UK so sorry buddy! Hey why not travel over and get your lottery of a chance to confront Baba Ji before hand!!!!! lol

People can take this post in whichever may they like, but ultimately it is worth simply as much as Kulbir has blabbered all over the web for 2 years

The Proof Is In the Pudding