So yesterday, was the protest at the banquet hall where the seminar was supposed to have been held. However having received the Sandesh from Sri Akaal Takhat the night before, the owner quickly canceled the program. So as Scott Hall would say, “Looks like another one for the good guys.”
Due to the cancellation of the program all busses were also canceled, none the less a group of about 200 Singhs still gathered at the hall to protest. Ghagga’s crew also showed with roughly 20, 30 supporters, who either didn’t hear about the cancellation or wanted to try and spur a confrontation, none the less the visible police presence kept things from getting rowdy, and with Ghagga himself being a no show tempers were kept under control.
Expectedly, Ghagga and supporters later that night (Sahota on Sur Sagar), took pot shots at the Sandesh given by Akaal Takhat Sahib, and lobbied there disgust with the protest, clearly showing there frustration with this month long ordeal.
I think what hurt them more then the Sandesh was the quick diss-association by the Missionary colleges that Ghagga himself claimed to be representative of.
Having been run out of Europe, UK, and even parts of the States, Toronto Sangat comprised of various Sangat from the various jathebandhi’s, gurdwara committee’s, councils and organizations all seemingly worked well together in tackling this foe, reminiscent of the saying: “My Brother and I against My Cousin; My Cousin and I against the Stranger.”
Amritsar Sahib (KP) - Panthic Weekly has received information that Sri Akal Takht Sahib has summoned anti-Panthic writer Inder S. Ghagga and his associates for their mis-parchar against the Sikh Nation.
The sandesh signed by Jathedar Joginder Singh Vedanti, has ordered a boycott of Inder S Ghagga, Gurcharan S Jeeonwala, Manjit S Sihota, Karamjit S Gill, Amandeep S Kang, Gurmit Sinh, Parminder S Parmar, and Jasbir S Mangat, and banned them from utilizing any Panthic stage or platform.
Furthermore, they have been asked Ghagga to stop his anti-Sikh propaganda, appear before Sri Akal Takht Sahib and ask for public forgiveness. Until then, the Sikh Sangat is instructed to continue the ban against these individuals.
Copy of Summons from Akal Takht Sahib calling for a boycott against Ghagga and his associates:
Keeping upto date with what seems to be everyone’s favourite topic and one that is starting to get old really fast, is that it seem’s like Ghagga is back in the news and this time it’s over a conference that is taking place this weekend.
The video released on panthic weekly helped those unfamiliar with Ghagga get an idea of who he is, and what he stands for. Although in those videos Ghagga does come to make some concessions, he has on other fronts apparently remained defiant and rumored to have asked for a re-match of sorts.
All that aside a well known and respected Sikh scholar from India, Professor Harpal Singh Pannu, professor of world religions specializing in religious philosophy and comparative religions and someone who seems to be familiar with Ghagga and the Kalaa Afghanaa Missionary Camp, has also weighed into the on going discussion by offering his own veechars on a local Radio program the other day.
As far the interview went I was left pretty impressed by the Prof’s veechars and general soch on Sikhi and his take on Ghagga’s writings. I guess it was refreshing at the very least.
Anyway’s getting back to the topic of the seminar at which Ghagga will be speaking. I received an email about a PEACEFUL protest that will be taking place.
Its hard to write a post about the following clip. None the less it was posted on Singh Sahba Canada’s website, which seems to be a group which favours and supports the notorious Kalaa Afghanaa, and is a proponent for the Sikh Missionary College.
The following is from a scene that happened last week at Mayfield Gurdwara Sahib, in Brampton Ontario. The speaker is Inder Singh Ghugga, professor of Sikh Missionary College.
I’ve never been fan of a missionary college let alone had the stomach to deal with them. Since knowing about them I’ve just had this natural repulsion against them. This had less to do with there actual vichaar’s and more to do with the the arrogance in which they presented themselves when dealing with them in any sort of vichaar.
At the on-set Singhs made it clear that they did not appreciate Inder Singh Ghugga’s views and stances in certain regards. A book he had published challenged different philosophies sensitive to many in the Sikh faith. While some may feel this is in his full freedom of speech / right to present these views, others take it that a certain level of responsibility need be taken by that individual when presenting there views.
Although, I do agree it would have been better if vichaar was done and a debate within Sangat was arranged versus the protest, it was highly apprehensive that Inder Singh spew such remarks towards the Singhs knowing good well the atmosphere was already as volatile as it was.
At the end of the day I guess it all comes down to…”if you want beef lets get it then…you want peace I’m with it then..I dont start beef I finish it. yea dawg I’m militant”…
Note - Video removed.
Just to note - Since the incident Singhs have been able to get together, and create a peace, having done Ardaas for forgiveness. It is rumored that several sit downs have also occured between Inder Singh Ghugga and various vidvaans as he mentions, and hopefully the recordings exist somewhere so to be presented on the net at some time.
Writing by shinda on Tuesday, 19 of September , 2006
Gosh darn it, them Muslims are at it again, this time around though they’re pissed off at Pope Bendadict and the catholic clergy, after the Pope quoted an old text talking about how the religion of Mohammad aka Islam, being a religion so relentless in its pursuit of world domination that it’s either Islam or death, (sounds kind of familiar). [Mind you that the Pope was lecturing against the ideology of the person who said the quote and was using the quote as a reference as a point to his entire lecture, but that is irrelevant]
Undoubtedly this pissed off Muslims as they figure that the Pope called the prophet Mohammad a terrorist, which as you would expect would bring about the chaos that has ensued, but in the end are they not [our Muslim brethren] proving the quote true, by reacting to a quote that said, Muslims are violent, with violence?
Now don’t get me wrong, if I were Muslim, which according to the religious quiz on quizfarm.com I am, I’d probably be pissed of to, but then again that doesn’t make it right, let alone justify the violence, or threats of it.
None the less, thinking about their hypocrisy I came to think about Gandhi (the skinny bald headed one) and his remarks against the Sikhs, (Gandhi called Guru Gobind Singh a, “misguided patriot!”, and described them as a war mongrel of sorts), and about how we [Sikhs] reacted to that. History doesn’t seem to recall any outbursts, which brings to question why not. Off course there was the opposition against Gandhi, and I’m sure there were even protests, but seemingly those are lost in the footnotes of some history textbooks.
Fair enough, we’re bigger then that and got thicker skin then the Muslims, but didn’t Gandhi’s remarks not warrant widespread rage? After all, he wouldn’t have been around to get his beatings from the British if it wasn’t for Sri Guru Tegh Bahadaur Sahib Ji taking a stand or Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji who sacrificed his entire family giving Gandhi the opportunity to become the akirat kan that he was..
It’s in that, which lies the frustration that inspires such posts. Unlike the Muslims we had a legitimate beef, yet we chose to take the road less traveled, the turn the other cheek and keep marching approach. The approach that led us to bare the brunt of the sticks and stones handed out back in those days by the British, letting not Gandhi’s words hurt us.
It’s that swallowing of pride that finds a way to get under my skin and boil into the sheer annoyance that I am starting to develop against Muslims. Although I may respect there gonads when it comes to protesting collectively the way they do, the fact that they do it over the stupidest things is starting to lead me to resent them. They demand equal rights in secular nations yet fail to give the same rights back in their own. They openly denounce all religions day in day out, yet throw a fit when someone talks or even questions Islam. They are furious over the worlds negative portrayal of Muslims yet they do nothing to help make us think otherwise, and yet they some how day in and day out seem to justify there own hypocrisy, while denouncing all others.
Writing by shinda on Friday, 1 of September , 2006
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Over the past few weeks I’ve been in various discussions with people over the Israel / Lebanon conflict always trying to see things as objectively as I possibly could, from both sides. In light of all this I can clearly say that I’m behind Hezbollah in this conflict and although it’s hard to fathom, can see them coming out of this on top.
Firstly, I’ll openly admit that Hezbollah is out gunned and out manned. However, one can never under estimate the power of the guerrilla fighter. Guerrilla’s in the context that I speak of them are those individuals fighting in a resistance movement, against an oppressive government. Basically the way I look at it, although maybe naively is that the guerrilla fighter is he who fights for something greater then himself, the underdog going up against the heavy weight champ In that sense, it goes without saying that a guerrilla warrior is by far one of the strongest type of warriors that any foe can go up against on the field. The Sikh jhajaroo’s of the 80’s and 90’s and of today are guerrilla’s. The strength of the guerrilla against the forces of the West in this case Israel, was best summed by Malcolm X, in his Ballot of a Bullet speech that he gave, when he described why the White Man (US, British, Euro league) will never win another war when fighting against such guerrilla’s,
Why some rice farmers — some rice farmers — some rice eaters ran him out of Korea. Yes, they ran him out of Korea. Rice eaters with nothing but gym shoes and a rifle and a bowl of rice took him and his tanks and his napalm and all that other action he’s supposed to have and ran him across the Yalu. Why? ‘Cause the day that he can win on the ground has passed.
Up in French Indo-China those little peasants, rice growers, took on the might of the French army and ran all the Frenchmen — you remember Dien Bien Phu. No.
The same thing happened in Algeria, in Africa. They didn’t have anything but a rifle. The French had all these highly mechanized instruments of warfare, but they put some guerrilla action on, and a — and a — and a white man can’t fight a guerrilla warfare. Guerrilla action takes heart, takes nerve, and he doesn’t have that. He’s brave when he’s got tanks. He’s brave when he’s got planes. He’s brave when he’s got bombs. He’s brave when he got a whole lot of company along with him, but you take that little man from Africa and Asia, turn him loose in the woods with a blade, with a blade — that’s all he needs, all he needs is a blade — and when the sun comes down — goes down and it’s dark, it’s even-steven.
The greatest asset that a guerrilla has, is the fact that the guerrilla is not fighting someone else’s war (again sticking to my definition of a guerrilla). He is not doing a job, which will put food on his table, or completing a duty for which he will get a cheque to help pay his bills. The guerrilla warrior is that person fighting for something larger then himself, an idea which can not die with the death of just one man. It’s because of this that the guerrilla fighters always have uprisings. Israel has been fighting Hezbollah since ‘82, and with each new generation finds itself fighting the same battle over and over again, simply because you can kill the people, but not the idea, and cause that Hezzbollah’s fighting for, which the majority of people in Lebanon support, ie. Israel out of Lebanon and release of all political prisoners.
So, given that Israel may in all likeliness (even though they are getting rocked right now) win this battle, Hezbollah and the people of Lebanon will win the war, and only then will there be the chance for peace.
Otpreka Singh posted a video on his site, which I’ll post below which I feel best justifies Hezbollah’s stance against Israel and why I to choose to stand for them in this conflict.
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